League One (2009/2010)
sábado, 01 mayo 2010@14:00
Jornada 45
Jornada 45
The Valley (London - Inglaterra)
23198 espectadores
23198 espectadores
Árbitros del partido
Árbitro
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![D. Randolph Darren Randolph](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/darren-randolph.png)
D. Randolph
Guardameta
Guardameta
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
S. Sodje
Defensa
Defensa
![C. Dailly Christian Dailly](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/christian-dailly.jpg)
C. Dailly
Defensa
Defensa
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
G. Borrowdale
Defensa
Defensa
![F. Richardson Frazer Richardson](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/frazer-richardson.png)
F. Richardson
Defensa
Defensa
![Semedo José Vítor Moreira Semedo](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/jose-vitor-moreira-semedo.png)
Semedo
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
N. Racon
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![N. Bailey Nicky Bailey](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/nicky-bailey.png)
N. Bailey
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![L. Sam Lloyd Ekow Sam](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/lloyd-ekow-sam.png)
L. Sam
Delantero
Delantero
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
N. Forster
Delantero
Delantero
![D. Burton Deon John Burton](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/deon-john-burton.jpg)
D. Burton
Entrenador
Entrenador
Suplentes
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
K. Reid
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
A. Sodje
Delantero
Delantero
![D. Mooney David Mooney](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/david-mooney.jpg)
D. Mooney
Delantero
Delantero
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
S. Higgs
Guardameta
Guardameta
![S. Lowry Shane Lowry](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/shane-lowry.png)
S. Lowry
Defensa
Defensa
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
M. Doyle
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![N. Kilkenny Neil Kilkenny](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/neil-kilkenny.png)
N. Kilkenny
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![R. Snodgrass Robert Snodgrass](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/robert-snodgrass.png)
R. Snodgrass
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![B. Johnson Bradley Johnson](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/bradley-johnson.png)
B. Johnson
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![L. Becchio Luciano Becchio](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/luciano-becchio.png)
L. Becchio
Delantero
Delantero
![M. Gradel Max-Alain Gradel](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/max-alain-gradel.png)
M. Gradel
Delantero
Delantero
![N. Collins Neill Collins](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/neill-collins.jpg)
N. Collins
Entrenador
Entrenador
![Sin foto del jugador Sin foto del jugador](https://images.fastscore.com/players/empty-photo.png)
R. Naylor
Entrenador
Entrenador
![A. Hughes Andy Hughes](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/andy-hughes.png)
A. Hughes
Entrenador
Entrenador
Entrenador:
S. Grayson
Suplentes
![M. Grella Mike Grella](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/mike-grella.jpg)
M. Grella
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![S. Watt Sanchez Watt](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/sanchez-watt.png)
S. Watt
Centrocampista
Centrocampista
![J. Beckford Jermaine Beckford](https://images.fastscore.com/players/50x50/jermaine-beckford.png)
J. Beckford
Delantero
Delantero
90'
S. Lowry (Leeds United) ve la tarjeta amarilla del árbitro L. Probert.
89'
A. Sodje (Charlton Athletic) ve la tarjeta amarilla del árbitro L. Probert.
89'
R. Naylor (Leeds United) es amonestado por el árbitro L. Probert.
88'
GOL EN PROPIA PUERTA!!! R. Naylor (Leeds United) marca en su propia portería.
84'
S. Grayson (Leeds United) ha decidido hacer una sustitución, M. Grella ha sustituido a A. Hughes.
73'
El árbitro L. Probert autoriza una sustitución y S. Watt (Leeds United) reemplazará a M. Doyle.
67'
Hay una sustitución. A. Sodje (Charlton Athletic) será de la partida, en sustitución de D. Burton.
67'
El entrenador ha decidido hacer una sustitución, con K. Reid (Charlton Athletic) reemplazando a N. Racon.
67'
Hay una sustitución. D. Mooney (Charlton Athletic) será de la partida, en sustitución de N. Forster.
64'
El árbitro L. Probert muestra una tarjeta amarilla a Semedo (Charlton Athletic).
64'
S. Grayson (Leeds United) ha decidido hacer una sustitución, J. Beckford ha sustituido a R. Snodgrass.
43'
L. Probert considera que B. Johnson (Leeds United) merece una tarjeta amarilla.
41'
S. Sodje (Charlton Athletic) ha recibido una tarjeta amarilla del árbitro. Deberá tener mucho cuidado durante el resto del partido.
Enfrentamientos
22.07.20
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
4
0
FIN
28.09.19
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
0
FIN
30.04.16
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
1
2
FIN
12.12.15
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
0
FIN
18.04.15
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
1
FIN
04.11.14
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
2
2
FIN
01.04.14
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
0
1
FIN
09.11.13
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
4
FIN
06.04.13
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
1
FIN
23.10.12
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
1
1
FIN
01.05.10
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
0
FIN
03.10.09
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
0
0
FIN
08.05.04
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
3
3
FIN
29.11.03
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
1
FIN
04.04.03
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
6
FIN
* Últimos 15 partidos (si están disponibles) entre ambos.
Enfrentamientos (con Charlton Athletic como local)
28.09.19
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
0
FIN
12.12.15
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
0
FIN
18.04.15
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
1
FIN
09.11.13
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
4
FIN
06.04.13
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
1
FIN
01.05.10
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
0
FIN
29.11.03
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
1
FIN
04.04.03
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
6
FIN
15.09.01
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
2
FIN
16.03.01
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
2
FIN
16.04.99
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
1
FIN
22.08.56
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
2
FIN
24.09.46
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
5
0
FIN
02.09.38
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
0
FIN
27.08.37
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
1
FIN
* Últimos 15 partidos (si están disponibles) entre ambos con Charlton Athletic como local.
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
General
Local
Visitante
Partidos jugados
32
16 (50.00%)
16 (50.00%)
Ganados
11
7 (63.64%)
4 (36.36%)
Empates
9
3 (33.33%)
6 (66.67%)
Perdidos
12
6 (50.00%)
6 (50.00%)
Goles a favor
39
21 (53.85%)
18 (46.15%)
Goles en contra
50
21 (42.00%)
29 (58.00%)
* Estadísticas de todos los partidos disputados entre ambos, bajo la perspectiva de Charlton Athletic
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
General
Local
Visitante
Partidos jugados
32
16 (50.00%)
16 (50.00%)
Ganados
12
6 (50.00%)
6 (50.00%)
Empates
9
6 (66.67%)
3 (33.33%)
Perdidos
11
4 (36.36%)
7 (63.64%)
Goles a favor
50
29 (58.00%)
21 (42.00%)
Goles en contra
39
18 (46.15%)
21 (53.85%)
* Estadísticas de todos los partidos disputados entre ambos, bajo la perspectiva de Leeds United
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
General
27.04.24
![Wycombe Wanderers Wycombe Wanderers](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/wycombe-wanderers.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
1
0
FIN
20.04.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Sin logo Sin logo](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/empty-logo.png)
1
1
FIN
13.04.24
![Cambridge United Cambridge United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/cambridge-united.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
1
1
FIN
09.04.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Wigan Athletic Wigan Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/wigan-athletic.png)
2
2
FIN
06.04.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Barnsley Barnsley](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/barnsley.png)
2
1
FIN
01.04.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Stevenage Stevenage](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/stevenage.png)
0
0
FIN
29.03.24
![Exeter City Exeter City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/exeter-city.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
1
1
FIN
16.03.24
![Fleetwood Town Fleetwood Town](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/fleetwood-town.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
1
1
FIN
09.03.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Carlisle United Carlisle United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/carlisle-united.png)
3
2
FIN
05.03.24
![Cheltenham Town Cheltenham Town](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/cheltenham-town.png)
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
1
3
FIN
Local
20.04.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Sin logo Sin logo](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/empty-logo.png)
1
1
FIN
09.04.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Wigan Athletic Wigan Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/wigan-athletic.png)
2
2
FIN
06.04.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Barnsley Barnsley](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/barnsley.png)
2
1
FIN
01.04.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Stevenage Stevenage](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/stevenage.png)
0
0
FIN
09.03.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Carlisle United Carlisle United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/carlisle-united.png)
3
2
FIN
24.02.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Portsmouth Portsmouth](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/portsmouth.png)
0
0
FIN
13.02.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Lincoln City Lincoln City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/lincoln-city.png)
1
1
FIN
03.02.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Derby County Derby County](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/derby-county.png)
0
1
FIN
23.01.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Northampton Town Northampton Town](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/northampton-town.png)
2
3
FIN
13.01.24
![Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/charlton-athletic.png)
![Peterborough United Peterborough United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/peterborough-united.png)
1
2
FIN
* Los últimos 10 partidos de Charlton Athletic en general y como local.
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
General
26.05.24
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Southampton Southampton](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/southampton.png)
0
1
FIN
16.05.24
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Norwich City Norwich City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/norwich-city.png)
4
0
FIN
12.05.24
![Norwich City Norwich City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/norwich-city.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
0
FIN
04.05.24
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Southampton Southampton](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/southampton.png)
1
2
FIN
26.04.24
![Queens Park Rangers Queens Park Rangers](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/queens-park-rangers.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
4
0
FIN
22.04.24
![Middlesbrough Middlesbrough](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/middlesbrough.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
3
4
FIN
13.04.24
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Blackburn Rovers Blackburn Rovers](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/blackburn-rovers.png)
0
1
FIN
09.04.24
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Sunderland Sunderland](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/sunderland.png)
0
0
FIN
06.04.24
![Coventry City Coventry City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/coventry-city.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
1
FIN
01.04.24
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
![Hull City Hull City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/hull-city.png)
3
1
FIN
Visitante
12.05.24
![Norwich City Norwich City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/norwich-city.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
0
FIN
26.04.24
![Queens Park Rangers Queens Park Rangers](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/queens-park-rangers.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
4
0
FIN
22.04.24
![Middlesbrough Middlesbrough](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/middlesbrough.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
3
4
FIN
06.04.24
![Coventry City Coventry City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/coventry-city.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
1
FIN
29.03.24
![Watford Watford](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/watford.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
2
2
FIN
08.03.24
![Sheffield Wednesday Sheffield Wednesday](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/sheffield-wednesday.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
2
FIN
02.03.24
![Huddersfield Town Huddersfield Town](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/huddersfield-town.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
1
1
FIN
28.02.24
![Chelsea Chelsea](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/chelsea.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
3
2
FIN
17.02.24
![Plymouth Argyle Plymouth Argyle](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/plymouth-argyle.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
2
FIN
13.02.24
![Swansea City Swansea City](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/swansea-city.png)
![Leeds United Leeds United](https://images.fastscore.com/teams/25x25/leeds-united.png)
0
4
FIN
* Los últimos 10 partidos de Leeds United en general y como visitante.